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.Στην Ευρώπη είχαμε πάντα το συνήθειο καθε 40-50 χρόνια να κανουμε και εναν πόλεμο.
Τις τελευταιες δεκαετιες που γιναμε όλοι "φίλοι" δεν γινεται να βγαίνουν κουμπουρια οπως παλιά.
Ε ηλθε τώρα ένας ιός να θυμουνται οι παλιοί και να μαθαινουν οι νέοι.
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No test- No case
Απο δω : https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/03/17/us/coronavirus-testing-data.html
Απο δω : https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/03/17/us/coronavirus-testing-data.html
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Pel
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- Και πού δεν θέλω;
Κούβα θεά όπως πάντα
http://www.tribune242.com/news/2020...q3VB0K5NKxqwR5ITtVk48tOGkyNM7CVM0gFpGn5roSF1c
http://www.tribune242.com/news/2020...q3VB0K5NKxqwR5ITtVk48tOGkyNM7CVM0gFpGn5roSF1c
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Θα κατσουμε τοσες μερες σπιτι χωρις αλκοολ? Εισαι τρελλη? Εγω τοσες μερες πινω μπυρες απο το απογευμα και μετα και μιλαω στο τηλεφωνο οοοοοολη μερα! Πως θα περασει αλλιως? Πλακα κανεις?
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Εμείς λέγαμε να πάμε Λισαβώνα που ακυρώθηκε και τελικά θα πάμε Πολωνια γιατί μας τελειώνουν οι βοτκες φουντουκι.Θα κατσουμε τοσες μερες σπιτι χωρις αλκοολ? Εισαι τρελλη? Εγω τοσες μερες πινω μπυρες απο το απογευμα και μετα και μιλαω στο τηλεφωνο οοοοοολη μερα! Πως θα περασει αλλιως? Πλακα κανεις?
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Οι χώρες χωρίς κανένα κρούσμα στις 16/3...
https://www.ethnos.gr/kosmos/94209_...res-toy-kosmoy-poy-den-ehoyn-oyte-ena-kroysma
https://www.ethnos.gr/kosmos/94209_...res-toy-kosmoy-poy-den-ehoyn-oyte-ena-kroysma
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Αντιστέκονται, δεν αναφέρουν, δεν έχουν καν τα μέσα για τα βασικά ή έχουν ακόμα χειρότερα προβλήματα;
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Ναι και μπαινουν στα σοσιαλ μιντια, σε εφαρμογες γνωριμιων και δεν ξερω γω τι αλλο και στιβουν το κεφαλι τους μπας και κανουν κανενα small talk! Ενω εμεις τωρα με τον κορωνοιο και την βαρεμαρα που πεφτει με την καραντινα μας απανταει μεχρι και η συμμαθητρια απο το σχολειο που μας ειχε στο φτυσιμο και ειχε δηλωσει πως και οι δυο τελευταιοι στη γη να ειμασταν δεν θα μας καθοταν με τιποτα! Εχει και τα καλα του ο κορωνοιος να τα λεμε και αυτα!
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https://nltimes.nl/2020/03/16/coronavirus-full-text-prime-minister-ruttes-national-address-englishThe third scenario is that we endlessly try to stop the virus. That means completely locking down the country. Such a rigorous approach may seem attractive at first sight, but experts point out that it definitely would not be a matter of days or weeks.
In that scenario, we would in fact have to shut down our country for a year or even longer, with all the consequences that entails. And even if it were practically possible - to only let people leave their homes with permission for such a long time - then the virus could immediately resurface if the measures were withdrawn.
The Netherlands is an open country and as long as there is no vaccine, the coronavirus will continue to spread through the world like a wave, and not skip our country.
https://nltimes.nl/2020/03/17/aroun...t-get-covid-19-herd-immunity-health-instituteOn Monday evening, Prime Minister Mark Rutte said that a large part of the population will likely be infected by the virus, but that this will also build up immunity. "Those who have had the virus are usually immune afterwards," Rutte explained. "The larger the group that is immune, the smaller the chance for the virus to jump to vulnerable elderly people and other people with poor health. With group immunity you build a protective wall around them."
That is the Netherlands' strategy in the fight against this virus. But it means that more people will have to become ill. "We want to spread the virus to people who are not really affected by it," Van Dissel said. "At the same time, you try to protect vulnerable groups as well as possible. If the group that has had the virus is large enough, it will protect the vulnerable against the virus."
He referred to China, where a drastic lockdown was introduced to stop the spread of the virus. Some 80 thousand people in China have had the diseases, but that is a very small percentage of the entire population of some 1.4 billion people. "The disadvantage of such a total lockdown is that the virus will form a kind of peat fire, that there is insufficient build-up of immunity, and that you will therefore always remain sensitive to reintroduction of the virus in the future. If everything is opened up again, focus of infection can re-emerge everywhere."
In that scenario, we would in fact have to shut down our country for a year or even longer, with all the consequences that entails. And even if it were practically possible - to only let people leave their homes with permission for such a long time - then the virus could immediately resurface if the measures were withdrawn.
The Netherlands is an open country and as long as there is no vaccine, the coronavirus will continue to spread through the world like a wave, and not skip our country.
https://nltimes.nl/2020/03/17/aroun...t-get-covid-19-herd-immunity-health-instituteOn Monday evening, Prime Minister Mark Rutte said that a large part of the population will likely be infected by the virus, but that this will also build up immunity. "Those who have had the virus are usually immune afterwards," Rutte explained. "The larger the group that is immune, the smaller the chance for the virus to jump to vulnerable elderly people and other people with poor health. With group immunity you build a protective wall around them."
That is the Netherlands' strategy in the fight against this virus. But it means that more people will have to become ill. "We want to spread the virus to people who are not really affected by it," Van Dissel said. "At the same time, you try to protect vulnerable groups as well as possible. If the group that has had the virus is large enough, it will protect the vulnerable against the virus."
He referred to China, where a drastic lockdown was introduced to stop the spread of the virus. Some 80 thousand people in China have had the diseases, but that is a very small percentage of the entire population of some 1.4 billion people. "The disadvantage of such a total lockdown is that the virus will form a kind of peat fire, that there is insufficient build-up of immunity, and that you will therefore always remain sensitive to reintroduction of the virus in the future. If everything is opened up again, focus of infection can re-emerge everywhere."
Η Ολλανδια εχει πραγματικα κυβερνηση που αντιπροσωπευει τη χωρα της, διαβαζοντας το πως σκεφτεται ο Ρουτε ειναι σαν να ακουω καθε Ολλανδο που γνωριζω προσωπικα.
That means completely locking down the country. Such a rigorous approach may seem attractive at first sight, but experts point out that it definitely would not be a matter of days or weeks.
In that scenario, we would in fact have to shut down our country for a year or even longer, with all the consequences that entails. And even if it were practically possible - to only let people leave their homes with permission for such a long time - then the virus could immediately resurface if the measures were withdrawn.
Γι αυτο εδω που είπε μέσα σε 3 προτάσεις ο Ρούτε δεν εχω δει ουτε εναν να δινει μια απαντηση, ειτε στο ιντερνετ ειτε...εκτος ιντερνετ. Σε οποιον και να το εχω θεσει. Στο ερωτημα ποσες μερες θα κρατας τα παντα κλειστα, και τι θα κανεις για να μην ξανα-εξαπλωθει ο ιος οταν ανοιξεις, δεν απαντα κανεις, γιατι δεν εχει κανεις καμια ιδεα. Το να ζουμε μηνες σε lockdown προφανως και δεν παιζει ως σεναριο. Αργα ή γρηγορα θα αρθουν τα μετρα, και τοτε ποιος σου λεει οτι δε θα εξαπλωθει ξανα ο ιος ; Τι θα κανεις, θα τα ξανακλεισεις ; Θα παιζουμε την κολοκυθιά ;
That means completely locking down the country. Such a rigorous approach may seem attractive at first sight, but experts point out that it definitely would not be a matter of days or weeks.
In that scenario, we would in fact have to shut down our country for a year or even longer, with all the consequences that entails. And even if it were practically possible - to only let people leave their homes with permission for such a long time - then the virus could immediately resurface if the measures were withdrawn.
Γι αυτο εδω που είπε μέσα σε 3 προτάσεις ο Ρούτε δεν εχω δει ουτε εναν να δινει μια απαντηση, ειτε στο ιντερνετ ειτε...εκτος ιντερνετ. Σε οποιον και να το εχω θεσει. Στο ερωτημα ποσες μερες θα κρατας τα παντα κλειστα, και τι θα κανεις για να μην ξανα-εξαπλωθει ο ιος οταν ανοιξεις, δεν απαντα κανεις, γιατι δεν εχει κανεις καμια ιδεα. Το να ζουμε μηνες σε lockdown προφανως και δεν παιζει ως σεναριο. Αργα ή γρηγορα θα αρθουν τα μετρα, και τοτε ποιος σου λεει οτι δε θα εξαπλωθει ξανα ο ιος ; Τι θα κανεις, θα τα ξανακλεισεις ; Θα παιζουμε την κολοκυθιά ;
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Κάτι αντίστοιχο συζητείται και στην Αυστραλία σήμερα, με τον πρωθυπουργό να κάνει διάγγελμα και να δηλώνει ότι τα σχολεία δεν κλείνουν. Περιορίζουν τις μεγάλες συγκεντρώσεις (πάνω από 100 άτομα) κλπ, αλλά σχολεία και επιχειρήσεις ακόμα όλα ανοιχτά.
Αυτά βέβαια, σήμερα. Αύριο ποιος ξέρει τι θα γίνει.
Αυτά βέβαια, σήμερα. Αύριο ποιος ξέρει τι θα γίνει.
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